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What is 786 ! Value of 786 in ISLAM !- Against the using of number 786 instead of ‘Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem’

Thursday, April 23rd, 2009
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Against the using of number 786 instead of  Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem

Almost all people believe that number  786   is very important for Muslims.

I know a few people who know the truth about it and want to know more.

In movies, TV series, the 786 in used over and over again, wanting Allahs help when in trouble.

786 in their car no., 786 in mobile number, 786 in house number, etc

I know telephone having 786  is for sale at very high rates in India.

Normally in India, a mobile number without 786 Cost about @ 200 INR. Its $ 5 and with 786   Cost about @ 5000 INR, about 100 USD.

and the people who buy then are Muslims and also non Muslims, the Muslims also pay extra to get this number.

so, What is the importance of 786 in Islam.

The Muslims say 786 =  Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim.

Is this number really matter?

Think Bismillah contain the name of God  Allah.

Can a number to replace the Holy Name of Allah Tala Subhanwan by 786?

We can eliminate “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim” from the top of the Sura al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786?

The innovation of writing 786  and replacing Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim has taken a long time and most of the Islamic community still use it without realizing it.

Number 786 have no value in Islam as true Muslims are instructed to follow the words of the Koran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and there is no discussion about 786 in the Koran or the Hadith.

Apart from ordinary people, experts also pay attention to any attention to it and to avoid disrespect to the holy words they use in their letters and documents. They take it as a “right” and “best” way to invite Allahs blessings and have started replacing the sacred words of this issue in their homes, offices, buildings, etc. Unfortunately, this trend is gaining momentum.

However, we see this number instead of the sacred words in the Quran? Or, we can write there too? we can eliminate “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim” from the top of the Surah al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786? Obviously not.

If you study the Quran, we see that is the sacred words in a letter from Prophet Solomon (peace be upon him)   to the Queen of Sheba – Bilqis – who was an infidel at that time. Even Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)   in his letters to various heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top.

So anyone who uses 786 with the intention of obtaining the blessings of Allah, is the wrong person and any attempt to justify, is ignorance.

More surprising is that 786   is an aggregation of the number of Hindu Lord Hari Krishna. ”

H (a Kr) iri (i) shna h-5, R-200, R-10, k-20, R-200, SH-300, N-50, a total of 786 = 1 ”

Thus, the total number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of falling into infidelity.

foundation of Islam is placed on the belief in Tawheed (the oneness of God). If anyone associated with the names of Allah exalted orally or in practice, we would be committing infidelity which is an unforgivable sin.

The Quran warns us, which is a rival against Allah, Allah will not allow you to enter paradise, and his abode is hell.

The letters from the Prophet (peace be upon him)   to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs to include the sacred text “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim. This was also the case with his fellow nobles. Did the Prophet ( (peace be upon him)   ) and his companions respect the Holy Words less than we do? was the verse: “Today I completed your religion,” he revealed to the Prophet (peace be upon him)   or to scholars calling of our time are all bent to amend the divine principles.

Now, when it became known that 786   is written in place of Hindus, “Lord Krishna, and has no meaning in the Quran and Sunnah, is obviously an innovation and is contrary to the divine doctrine of Obey Allah and His Prophet. ”

Similarly, some Muslims to replace the name of Allah by the number 66 and (the Prophet (peace be upon him)   name)  92.

This way we can convert the entire Koran in digits. Every character and saying the names of Allah will give good deeds. What If you are calling 66   instead of Allah , NO … … …

But if you ask, the number 420   is used against somebodys name and is called “420″  Can you handle such an insult?

Calling someone by a nickname that is a sin. Allah Taala says,  Do not call each other by nicknames.

If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames by humans, how can you allow the use of such insulting replacement number for him and his Prophet (peace be upon him).

Great importance “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim in the Quran and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the name of Allah, not the number 786 or any other substitution.

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Numeral 786 as Basmala

Tuesday, January 1st, 2008

Numeral 786 as Basmala

Is it not a reprehensible innovation to use 786 instead of the full Basmala [="In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate"]? Some say that it also spells out Hare Krishna
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

As-Salamu `alaykum:

To write 786 in lieu of the Basmala is permitted. The numeral 786 represents the abjad [letter-numeral] value of the Basmala ["Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem"]. If there is fear of disrespect for the Basmala if written in full then it may be preferable to use the number 786 instead. Occasional use of abjad numerals has long been current among the Ulema.

See the table of “abjad” [letter-numeral] values at

http://0786.in/index.php/01/01/abjad/

Objections to using 786 in the sense of the Basmala fall into three categories:

1. The objection that the numeral 786 does not represent the Basmala. This is simple ignorance of abjad values. Such an objection carries no weight at all.

2. The objection that using 786 is a novelty. This is correct but so is the spread of printed matter and worldwide literacy. The Sunna way in this regard is to find ways to curb the risks of heedlessness and disrespect to sacred things in print. The use of 786 is one such way. A better one is to write the Arabic letter Ba’ to stand for the Basmala or to write: Bismihi Ta`ala = “In his Name, Most High.”

An important point of principles. The use of abjad numerals was accepted by the Ulema of Islam East and West long ago and therefore cannot be called a bid`a except by those constantly and/or essentially at odds with the Umma’s understanding and practice i.e. the bid`a sects themselves. They can be exposed by their own key statements, such as “Was the verse, ‘Today I completed your religion for you’, revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) or to the so-called scholars of our age who are all bent to amend the Divine principles?”

3. The objection that it is potential kufr because 786 also happens to stand for the abjad value of “Hare Krishna” if Arabized as Ha’-Ra’-Ya’-Kaf-Ra’-Shin-Nun-Alif. This is a grave charge and false on many fronts or rather backsides to boot. It is ironic that this objection was published in a country that has allowed the name of their king to be engraved on the very door of the Ka`ba in full letters, yet they do not raise a peep against such an act! More importantly:

(i) False witness against fellow Muslims, chronic suspicion of fellow Muslims, and diseased pride are all among the Kaba’ir. They must be avoided at all cost and such an accusation should have never seen the light of day nor be given the time of day. Instead, it is being reposted and circulated!

(ii) Those that leveled these false accusations of potential kufr and bid`a against Muslims should repent, as the accusations have now returned upon them. The same applies to the propagators. Allah Most High has placed the Hurma or sanctity of a Muslim too high to allow such reckless accusations to be thrown about without consequences.

(iii) The correct abjad value of Hare Krishna is NOT 786 but 776. There is no long Ya at the end of Hare but a brief vowel that does not stand for a letter. The result is:

NOT h-5, r-200, i-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate 786

BUT h-5, r-200, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate 776

(iv) The numeral 786 might apply to any number of names or phrases. However, it is used by Muslims only and in the Basmala sense only. Other senses are precluded from the usage of those Muslims. A pseudo-censor comes along and claims that other senses are not precluded: such a false judge is ignoring the fundamental principles that

{Deeds Count Only According to Intentions}

and that

{The Lawful Is Crystal Clear and the Unlawful is Crystal Clear}.

He has put aside half of the Shari`a by ignoring these two principles. Who will possibly follow him except those Allah misguides?

The reverse is true also: even if 786 meant only “Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem” and nothing else, it would still be meaningless to use it without the intention of Basmala.

(v) Suppose 786 does stand for Hare Krishna, which means “Holy Krishna.” There is nothing in Islam – and Allah knows best – that precludes the possibility that Krishna was a Prophet of Islam. “We find popular Muslim poets in India, such as Sayid Sultan, writing poems about Krishna as a Prophet. There is no final theological proof that he was one, but the assumption is nonetheless not in violation of the Koran” (Abd al-Hakim Murad, “British and Muslim?” Based on a lecture given to a conference of British converts on September 17 1997). Writing the name of a Prophet as one’s letterhead can never be “infidelity.”

Someone had requested a response on this issue two years ago on the mail-list msa-ec. The lengthiness of this response is due to the sad fact that extremism has shifted the issue from a one-line ruling of secondary importance (Use of the numeral 786 in lieu of Basmala offensive or permitted? – Permitted) to the grave disease of takfir and tabdi`, and Allah is our help.

{And speak not, concerning that which your own tongues qualify (as clean or unclean), the falsehood: “This is lawful, and this is forbidden,” so that ye invent a lie against Allah. Lo! those who invent a lie against Allah will not succeed} (16:116).

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