WHAT IS 786 ! VALUE OF 786 IN ISLAM !- AGAINST THE USING OF NUMBER 786 INSTEAD OF ‘BISMILLAAH AL-RAHMAAN AL-RAHEEM’

April 23rd, 2009
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Against the using of number 786 instead of  Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem

Almost all individuals really believe that number  786   is really crucial for Muslims.

I know a few individuals who know the truth about it and want to know more.

In movies, TV series, the 786 in used over and over again, wanting Allahs help when in trouble.

786 in their car no., 786 in mobile number, 786 in house number, etc

I know telephone having 786  is for sale at really high rates in India.

Normally in India, a mobile number with out 786 Cost about @ two hundred INR. Its $ five and with 786   Cost about @ 5000 INR, about hundred USD.

and the individuals who purchase after that are Muslims and also non Muslims, the Muslims also pay extra to get this number.

so, What is the significance of 786 in Islam.

The Muslims say 786 =  Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim.

Is this number really matter?

Think Bismillah contain the name of God  Allah.

Can a number to replace the Holy Name of Allah Tala Subhanwan by 786?

We can get rid of “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim” from the top of the Sura al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786?

The innovation of writing 786  and replacing Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim has taken a long time and most of the Islamic community still use it with out realizing it.

Number 786 have no value in Islam as true Muslims are instructed to follow the words of the Koran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and there is no conversation about 786 in the Koran or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) the Hadith.

Apart from ordinary people, experts also pay attention to any attention to it and to avoid disrespect to the holy words they use in their letters and documents. They take it as a “right” and “best” way to invite Allahs blessings and have started replacing the sacred words of this problem in their homes, offices, buildings, etc. Unfortunately, this trend is gaining momentum.

However, we see this number instead of the sacred words in the Quran? Or, we can write there too? we can get rid of “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim” from the top of the Surah al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786? Of course not.

If you study the Quran, we see that is the sacred words in a letter from Prophet Solomon (peace be upon him)   to the Queen of Sheba – Bilqis – who was an infidel at that time. Even Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)   in his/her letters to various heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top.

So anybody who uses 786 with the intention of obtaining the blessings of Allah, is the wrong person and any attempt to justify, is ignorance.

More surprising is that 786   is an aggregation of the number of Hindu Lord Hari Krishna. ”

H (a Kr) iri (i) shna h-5, R-200, R-10, k-20, R-200, SH-300, N-50, a total of 786 = one ”

Thus, the total number of those letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of falling into infidelity.

foundation of Islam is placed on the belief in Tawheed (the oneness of God). If anybody associated with the names of Allah exalted orally or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) in practice, we would be committing infidelity which is an unforgivable sin.

The Quran warns us, which is a rival against Allah, Allah will not enable you to enter paradise, and his/her abode is hell.

The letters from the Prophet (peace be upon him)   to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs to also include the sacred text “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim. This was also the case with his/her fellow nobles. Did the Prophet ( (peace be upon him)   ) and his/her companions respect the Holy Words less than we do? was the verse: “Today I completed your religion,” he revealed to the Prophet (peace be upon him)   or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) to scholars calling of our time are all bent to amend the divine principles.

Now, when it became known that 786   is written in place of Hindus, “Lord Krishna, and has no meaning in the Quran and Sunnah, is of course an innovation and is contrary to the divine doctrine of Obey Allah and His Prophet. ”

Similarly, some Muslims to replace the name of Allah by the number 66 and (the Prophet (peace be upon him)   name)  92.

This way we can convert the entire Koran in digits. Every character and saying the names of Allah will give good deeds. What If you are calling 66   instead of Allah , NO … … …

But if you ask, the number 420   is used against somebodys name and is called “420″  Can you handle such an insult?

Calling somebody by a nickname that is a sin. Allah Taala says,  Do not call each other by nicknames.

If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames by humans, how can you enable the use of such insulting replacement number for him and his/her Prophet (peace be upon him).

Great significance “Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim in the Quran and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the name of Allah, not the number 786 or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) any other substitution.

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THE FINAL ANALYSIS OF THE CODE 786

February 1st, 2008

The final analysis of the code 786 – it is relevant in ‘Islam for “Bismillah” 786_bismillahAND in Hindu’s for “Hare Krishna”786_hare_krishna as personally have analyzed.
Keeping the sanctity of the Qur’an in mind 1 should, as a matter of interest, know the origin of the code 786. Nasr, the son of ‘Asim ‘al Laythiy, a great Arabic scholar, encoded the Arabic alphabet.
Strange as it might seem only code 786 caught the imagination of individuals who religiously used it over the years, even today.

The code for each letter of the Arabic alphabet reads as follows:

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therefore, if encoded adds up to 786.

Some examples of modern innovations.

a. To spread brightly – coloured sheets over the graves or (perhaps) (perhaps) shrines of saints (‘auliyas) as an act of piety.

b. To perform religious or (perhaps) (perhaps) ceremonial acts at shrines e.g. making tawaf a-round shrines.

c. To participate in Urs (commemorating the death of a saint) celebrations.

d. Burning incense to activate the spirits.

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NUMERAL 786 AS BASMALA

January 1st, 2008

Numeral 786 as Basmala

Is it not a reprehensible innovation to use 786 instead of the full Basmala [="In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate"]? Some say that it also spells out Hare Krishna
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

As-Salamu `alaykum:

To write 786 in lieu of the Basmala is permitted. The numeral 786 represents the abjad [letter-numeral] value of the Basmala ["Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem"]. If there is fear of disrespect for the Basmala if written in full after that it may be preferable to use the number 786 instead. Occasional use of abjad numerals has long been present among the Ulema.

See the table of “abjad” [letter-numeral] values at

http://0786.in/index.php/01/01/abjad/

Objections to using 786 in the sense of the Basmala fall into 3 categories:

1. The objection that the numeral 786 does not represent the Basmala. This is simple ignorance of abjad values. Such an objection carries no weight at all.

2. The objection that using 786 is a novelty. This is right but so is the spread of printed matter and worldwide literacy. The Sunna way in this regard is to find ways to curb the dangers of heedlessness and disrespect to sacred things in print. The use of 786 is 1 such way. A much better 1 is to write the Arabic letter Ba’ to stand for the Basmala or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) to write: Bismihi Ta`ala = “In his/her Name, Most High.”

An crucial point of principles. The use of abjad numerals was approved by the Ulema of Islam East and West long ago and therefore cannot be called a bid`a except by those continually and/or essentially at odds with the Umma’s understanding and practice i.e. the bid`a sects themselves. They can be exposed by their own key statements, such as “Was the verse, ‘Today I completed your religion for you’, revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) to the so-called scholars of our age who are all bent to amend the Divine principles?”

3. The objection that it is potential kufr cause (because) 786 also happens to stand for the abjad value of “Hare Krishna” if Arabized as Ha’-Ra’-Ya’-Kaf-Ra’-Shin-Nun-Alif. This is a grave charge and false on many fronts or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) rather backsides to boot. It is ironic that this objection was published in a country that has enabled the name of their king to be engraved on the really door of the Ka`ba in full letters, yet they do not raise a peep against such an act! More importantly:

(i) False witness against fellow Muslims, chronic mistrust of fellow Muslims, and diseased pride are all among the Kaba’ir. They must be avoided at all cost and such an accusation should have never seen the light of day nor be given the time of day. Instead, it is being reposted and circulated!

(ii) Those that leveled those false accusations of potential kufr and bid`a against Muslims should repent, as the accusations have now returned upon them. The same applies to the propagators. Allah Most High has placed the Hurma or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) sanctity of a Muslim too high to enable such reckless accusations to be thrown about with out consequences.

(iii) The right abjad value of Hare Krishna is NOT 786 but 776. There is no long Ya at the end of Hare but a short vowel that does not stand for a letter. The result is:

NOT h-5, r-200, i-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate 786

BUT h-5, r-200, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate 776

(iv) The numeral 786 might apply to any number of names or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) phrases. However, it is used by Muslims only and in the Basmala sense only. Other senses are precluded from the usage of those Muslims. A pseudo-censor comes along and proclaims that other senses are not precluded: such a false judge is ignoring the fundamental principles that

{Deeds Count Only According to Intentions}

and that

{The Lawful Is Crystal Clear and the Unlawful is Crystal Clear}.

He has put aside half of the Shari`a by ignoring those 2 principles. Who will possibly follow him except those Allah misguides?

The reverse is true also: even if 786 meant only “Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem” and nothing else, it would still be meaningless to use it with out the intention of Basmala.

(v) Suppose 786 does stand for Hare Krishna, which means “Holy Krishna.” There is nothing in Islam – and Allah knows best – that precludes the possibility that Krishna was a Prophet of Islam. “We find popular Muslim poets in India, such as Sayid Sultan, writing poems about Krishna as a Prophet. There is no final theological proof that he was one, but the assumption is nonetheless not in violation of the Koran” (Abd al-Hakim Murad, “British and Muslim?” Based on a lecture given to a conference of British converts on September seventeen 1997). Writing the name of a Prophet as a person’s letterhead can never be “infidelity.”

Someone had requested a response on this problem 2 years ago on the mail-list msa-ec. The lengthiness of this response is due to the sad fact that extremism has shifted the problem from a one-line ruling of secondary significance (Use of the numeral 786 in lieu of Basmala offensive or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) permitted? – Permitted) to the grave disease of takfir and tabdi`, and Allah is our help.

{And speak not, concerning that which your own tongues qualify (as clean or (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) (perhaps) unclean), the falsehood: “This is lawful, and this is forbidden,” so that ye invent a tell lies against Allah. Lo! those who invent a tell lies against Allah will not succeed} (16:116).

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